Dublin Shooting: Neighbor Says Suspect Had Knife in Street Before

Ray Finkle January 25, 2013 at 11:40 pm

Jay jay, you are incredibly stupid. Go away.

David January 25, 2013 at 11:44 pm

I so glad he shot him!!!!! we need more of this action

Ryan Sherman January 26, 2013 at 12:02 am

Dublinazation...right Graham?

Ryan Sherman January 26, 2013 at 12:03 am

Jay, it's just a fizzle shizzle.

jay jay January 26, 2013 at 12:32 am

hey mr finkle fuk u and these faggot ass cops and ima be hear until i wanna leave PERIOD

Katie Asbury January 26, 2013 at 12:42 am

Officers are not trained to to kill. They are trained to protect and serve. This officer did what he was supposed to do. You would be an idiot to engage in hand to hand combat or to wait untill the threat was close enough to harm you before using your tazzer. Spend a few day's in their shoes and then tell me what you would do in this kind of situation.

Scanner guy January 26, 2013 at 12:49 am

Looks like jay jay is missing some letter keys on his keyboard.

Nora G January 26, 2013 at 01:18 am

So let me finish what I started in the first comment. My mom and I rounded the corner of Frederiksen Ln ... we saw a police officer in the driveway ...I slowed my car to less then 5 mph ... I saw the suspect next to the suv just standing there hunched over...I would say he was more shuffling then walking or even "charging at the police officer" a couple other men on the other side of the car just watching ... The police officer backed up a step or two and then pulled out his gun and shot
3 times and hit the man on his left side.. He did not yell at the man or tell him to stop...... I did not see the suspect raise his hand or even barely move in the direction to the officer.... when the suspect fell .... it was only then I saw the officer take a knife away from the man on the ground... he used two fingers to pick up!... I also wondered why the officer did not taze the man... I'm not upset with the officer .. I know he did what he dad to do...

John Harrington January 26, 2013 at 01:52 am

Jay, you must be a graduate of a public high school in California.

Pleasanton Mom January 26, 2013 at 03:00 am

Dublin patch. Seems like there's another witness account on here that should be reported.

Nomcanh Thol January 26, 2013 at 04:03 am

Jay Jay, you are an uneducated tool. I am sure your job is as dangerous and noble as being a police officer. Do us all a favor and learn how to write English prior to posting.

Chatch January 26, 2013 at 05:22 am

Wow, for someone with a name like yours which defies all proper spelling and use of english grammar and pronunciation......you should be one to lecture about "proper english"....

Lisa L January 26, 2013 at 11:17 am

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Lisa L January 26, 2013 at 11:50 am

Dear Nora G, I'm very glad someone witnessed what happened to my son. Ryan has a mental illness and was off his medications. Ryan's father said Ryan was very distraught. Ryan's father called the police for help. His father was concerned Ryan might hurt himself. I wish the police would have asked Ryan to put the knife down before they shot him. I believe he would have. I'm so relieved he is going to be alright physically. We need to make sure he stays on his medications moving foreward. Thank you again Nora G.

Owl January 26, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Lisa L, sorry your family is going through this. Must be extremely difficult.

Lisa L January 26, 2013 at 01:43 pm

Thank you very much.

Sandra January 26, 2013 at 02:09 pm

Lisa, I'm so sorry for your family. I know how heart breaking it is for the family, and the person suffering from mental illness. I had a dear neighbor whom suffered from mental illness. It was very tormenting for her when she was having delusions. I feel for these people because they have very few friends to help them.

Lisa L January 26, 2013 at 02:59 pm

Most people have no idea how difficult it is. He is so much better when he is taking the meds. I wish I could get help from the courts. I take him to the psychiatrist, I get his medications, I even make sure he swallows the medication. I have made numerous attemps to get the court and Alamenda county to order him to stay on his medication. He has been taken to Psychatric hospital over 10 times. I beg these doctors to start the process to conserve him. I called the Alameda office which can conserve people unable to care for themselves. The women I spoke with said " I hate to tell you this but he would probably need to have at least 20 visits to the hospital and would have to do something more serious than treatening himself or others". I do not expect anyone else to care for my son. I'm willing and able. the laws do not help me, they tie my hands. This incident never would have happened if Ryan was taking his medications.

Ryan Sherman January 26, 2013 at 05:23 pm

Lisa, very sorry for the pain and trauma your family has been thru. I can only imagine how difficult it to deal with a severely disturbed child. It is so difficult to keep him an his meds when his mind probably tells him he is OK without them. That is a huge part of the illness. I'm sure you have been very frightened for your son. A mothers love for their child will never go away, no matter what. For people who lack knowledge of the illness really should not cast judgement unless they have been directly affected in some way. I know what I'm talking about...

Nomcanh Thol January 26, 2013 at 07:01 pm

Cha- You are so awesome. The defender of morons.

MagWil01 January 26, 2013 at 08:08 pm

For the family of the disabled adult male: my heart goes out to you. I understand the trauma involved. It is kind of you to attempt to manage your son for as long as you can. I hope you are getting the wonderful support the local NAMI and FERC have available for you. Google for meetings.
For the officer: thank you for your service. Responding to these types of calls is dangerous. It sounds like you were able to assess the situation quickly and wisely. One can't always see the weapon clearly in cases that evolve in this manner and shooting the suspect and critically injuring him for your (and other's) protections, might have happened. But your assessment allowed you to shoot in a non-critical place. Thank you to all the police in the TriValley that are learning about mental disabilities. Education and communication will help. But we also have to remember that in the end, the policeman has to make a decision based on the situation at hand in a very short amount of time. For those that want to help: you can get involved in passing some laws that give caregivers more rights to care for mentally disturbed people and laws that would do a better job of assessing when to release a patient from a 5150. Learn about Laura's Law.

Johnny Law January 26, 2013 at 09:29 pm

I do not really have any sympathy. Keep him on the meds or keep him off the streets. Most of the violent crimes we hear about (murder, sexual assault, child molestation..) are perpetrated by guys like this who are "off their meds." Cops did a bang-up job in this case.

Ryan Sherman January 27, 2013 at 03:27 am

What are your other handles on here you coward?

MagWil01 January 27, 2013 at 03:57 am

Johnny, you cannot keep another person on meds. In California, if you are 18, you can refuse medication. And there are no mental health facilities (most people don't know these have been closed) in California. Most of the violent crimes are done by gangs not mentally ill. I am not sure what you mean by "keep him off the street" but I think perhaps you don't fully understand the logistics of caring for an adult with mental illness.

50 years here January 27, 2013 at 04:29 pm

I'm sure the cop meant to kill him, just a bad shot. You people have been brainwashed into thinking it's OK and acceptable for police to kill people at the slightest threat. In days long gone, officers used common sense and defused the situation. THEY USED THEIR BRAINS INSTEAD OF THEIR MIGHT!

Lisa L January 28, 2013 at 12:40 am

I have learned that mental illness has a certain stigma attached. I have always tried to keep Ryan's illness within the family and private. I have not been able to talk to my son or a single medical person about his condition. He has not been charged yet therefore I cannot obtain an attorney to check on his physical and mental condition. I hope this incident will give me a tool to get more permanent help for Ryan. I want to thank all of you. For your empathy, advice and every comment.

Voter with an ID January 28, 2013 at 01:47 am

You may be right or you may be a fool. The ante has been upped by too many officers getting shot needlessly trying to reason with unreasonable of incoherent perps. Maybe you've been watching too many episodes of shows with police psychologists on the street in these situations. In real life, it's shoot or be killed. It's a wonder you've survived 50 years here....

Camaro on Cinderblocks January 28, 2013 at 03:13 pm

Remove access to "Rambo" knives....

MagWil01 January 28, 2013 at 04:59 pm

Lisa, there is support for parents of adult children who have mental problems (even if diagnosis has not been made). NAMI Tri-Valley General Meeting. First Monday of the month 7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. They discuss resources and how to prepare and handle YOUR issues. If you are interested, put a note here and I'll give you more info.

Lisa L January 28, 2013 at 06:24 pm

Maggie, I have been to meetings in Pleasanton and Livermore. I need to go back and I will. Thanks very much.